Phineas and Ferb meet Marvel Superheroes… LOL WUT?

Production is now underway on “Phineas and Ferb: Mission Marvel,” an animated adventure that will assemble characters from two hugely popular franchises, Disney’s “Phineas and Ferb” and Marvel’s iconic Super Heroes:  Spider-Man and The Avengers (Iron Man, Thor and Hulk).  The epic television event, premiering in summer 2013 on Disney Channel, will mark the first crossover animated television special for Marvel and Disney properties.  Working closely with Marvel’s creative team, “Phineas and Ferb” creators and executive producers Dan Povenmire and Jeff “Swampy” Marsh are designing Marvel’s Super Heroes and Super Villains including Red Skull, Whiplash, Venom and M.O.D.O.K. to fit the Danville world of the Emmy Award-winning series.

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Spidey Round Up

Remember my previous post on Ultimate Spider-man? I now take all that back. Why? One word: Spider-cyle…

That and this show is just unbelievably annoying! They can’t go 30 seconds without breaking the 4th wall and talking to you! The show is WAY to crowded with characters and villains you just don’t care about. To be fair I can’t find fault in the talent behind the show. They’ve got some great people working on it. But again, I can hear some stupid executive saying, “We gotta give Spidey a cool motorcycle and make Aunt May cooler! And have more cool gadgets he can use!” I’m gonna vomit. And the story is literally going nowhere fast. And yes, you can take both the nowhere and the fast part VERY literally.

I watched it today only because I was stuck at home sick. Afterwards, I had to cleanse my mind by watching Spectacular Spider-man again. And it made me even more upset that there’s no season 3… So I googled it like ya do…

Here’s what Greg Weisman said,

Greg responds…

Marvel DIDN’T cancel it.

It’s all very complicated, and we were certainly the recipients of bad corporate luck, but no single company cancelled the series. We just wound up with a situation where no single company could proceed with it.

I’ll try to break it all down:

1. Sony had originally produced SpecSpidey as part of their overall entertainment license of the Spidey property (which of course included the extremely lucrative live action films).

2. But in order to win some concession on those live action feature films, Sony returned the animation rights to the character back to Marvel.

3. So now only Marvel could produce a Spider-Man cartoon. Sony no longer could, which meant SpecSpidey couldn’t continue at Sony.

4. I have no idea whether Marvel was interested in continuing Spectacular Spider-Man or not. But let’s assume for the sake of argument that they would have liked to.

5. They couldn’t.

6. Why? Because Sony owned all the specific elements (designs, storyline, etc.) to the SpecSpidey VERSION of Spider-Man. So Marvel would have had to license all that BACK from Sony.

7. You can imagine how unlikely THAT scenario was. Marvel finally gets the rights back to do an animated version of their marquee character, and then they have to pay Sony to do it instead of just starting from scratch. That was never going to happen.

8. Of course, all this was complicated by the fact that Disney purchased Marvel, and Disney and Sony are direct competitors.

9. And I’m sure Marvel was excited to put their own stamp on an animated Spider-Man. Who could blame them?

10. So that was it. We were toast through no fault of our own. The folks at Marvel, Sony and even Disney all seemed to like our show, but the corporate mess made it impossible for us to continue.

11. And, yes, it is a bummer. (For me, at least.) But it’s no single person or single company’s fault. It’s just how things shook out.

12. And finally, though I have no involvement with the upcoming Ultimate Spider-Man, you can’t deny that a lot of great people have worked on it. There’s no reason to think it won’t be as good or better than SpecSpidey. To a certain generation, SpecSpidey will always be THEIR Spider-Man cartoon. But to a new batch o’ viewers, I’m sure their Spidey of choice will be the Ultimate.

There may still be hope though. Maybe if enough sign the petitions… Well, it can’t hurt. So sign!
http://www.petitiononline.com/petitions/ss3w3625/signatures?page=1
http://www.change.org/petitions/marvel-bring-back-the-spectacular-spider-man
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-back-the-spectacular-spiderman-for-a-third-season/261337810583530

In other news there is also a major motion picture reboot… ya mighta herd of it…

I’ll keep it brief. I liked it overall better than the previous movies. Mainly because of the intimate realistic take. There were some flaws. I would have taken more cues from the aforementioned animated series in terms of setting up future characters. Peter’s journey as a hero wasn’t quite as moving as Raimi’s take. But it was at least very emotional. I also thought it was too melodramatic at times. It just seemed a bit forced; especially the soundtrack. But at least Garfield pulled some funny quips that were missing from the Raimi films. I’m looking forward to see where the new series takes us. At least this helps makes up for the disaster that is Ultimate Spider-man.

Ultimate Spider-man VS Spectacular Spider-man

I just started watching Ultimate Spider-man on Disney XD this weekend. While I find it definitely worth watching, there are still a few big flaws.

I’ll give the good points first.

Comedy

It’s something that’s always been part of Spider-man, but this series really takes full advantage of it. Lots of fun with the animation and breaking the fourth wall with Parker’s commentary. There are some clear Scott Pilgrim influences as well. That was a happy surprise as I’ve been hoping it would eventually have an influence on movies and television. Seeing the same use of text and even the K.O. during a villain punch collide with my favorite superhero was a welcome treat.
The downside is that Parker’s commentary becomes too frequent. And some of the dialogues sounds VERY juvenile. It’s not terrible. But it sounds like they’re playing it down for the immature adolescent boys who the show is aimed at. Can’t blame them, but I smell executive meddling.

The Animation

The animation is great! Even better than SS in some ways. Creative script that leads to even more creative storyboards.
Downside: I can’t stand the character designs. They’re just not very appealing and there’s not much stylization. One of my favorite things about SS was the character designs.

Acting

I would say, overall, the voice direction is much better than SS.
Downside is, Josh Keaton still sounds better as Spidey.

Story
I like the fact that they’re incorporating other Marvel characters. I’ve always been a sucker for cross-overs.
Unfortunately, the frantic pacing is sometimes too fast. Especially in the episode Doom, there’s so much being thrown at you all at once that you can hardly tell what’s going on in the last half of the episode. I know kids have short attention spans, but come on! That smell of executives is getting stronger. And then there’s Aunt May. I don’t know if it was this way in the Ultimate comics, but I still don’t like it. Peter actually tells the audience that it would be lame if he was living with his “dotey old aunt” and quickly reassures his audience (who apparently thinks it’s uncool for an orphan to choose to live with his widowed aunt (though he doesn’t really have a choice)) that Aunt May is really “cool!” And by “cool” he means making Aunt May into a completely different character, one who’s feistier, beats Peter at video games, has more energy, strength, looks younger, etc. What’s really uncool? That executive meddling I was talking about. This reeks of it! I’m starting to wish Viacom had bought Marvel instead of Disney.

It’s a good show, but I still prefer Spectacular Spider-man (one of my favorite shows ever!) I also don’t see a reason why this show couldn’t have been a sequel to SS. I miss Gwen Stacy… 😦

Of course, in the end, what you really wanna know is, “Is Ultimate Spider-man worth watching?” The answer is… EDIT